20VC: $5BN in Revenue, 7 to 7,000 Employees in 9 Months, 206,000 Tests in a Single Day: The Craziest Story in Startups: Curative with Fred Turner
2026-07-18 · 88 min · 11 entities
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20VC: $5BN in Revenue, 7 to 7,000 Employees in 9 Months, 206,000 Tests in a Single Day: The Craziest Story in Startups: Curative with Fred Turner
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Fred Turner is the Founder and CEO @ Curative, one of the wildest stories in tech. Fred scaled a COVID testing business from $0 to $5BN in revenue and took the team from 7 to 7,000 employees in just 9 months. They did over 206,000 COVID tests in a single day and signed contracts in the 100s of $Ms with several of the largest states. Today, Curative is a unicorn health insurance business taking on the incumbents for one of the largest markets in healthcare.
AGENDA:
00:00 How Did a Spare-Time COVID Test Become a $5BN Business?
07:00 How Do You Go From Testing Cows to STDs, Sepsis and COVID?
21:00 When Did Fred Realise COVID Was Massive—and How Did Curative Scale to $5BN?
36:00 Why Pivot Into Health Insurance—and What Is Broken About US Healthcare?
40:00 How Is AI Rebuilding Curative—and Which Departments Go to Zero?
45:00 Is SaaS Dead? Why Is Curative Cutting 80% of Its Software Spend?
48:00 Are Legacy Insurers Screwed? What Will Anthropic Be Worth in Three Years?
59:00 Will AI Make Companies Smaller? Which Jobs Will Survive?
1:10:00 Why Nuclear—and Could Subcritical Become Bigger Than Curative?
1:17:00 What Have Marriage and Fatherhood Taught Fred? What Has He Changed His Mind On?