20VC: Atlassian CEO on Why Everything is Overvalued & Are We in an AI Bubble | Do Margins Matter & Does Defensibility Exist in an AI World | Is Per Seat Pricing Dead & The Future of Vibe Coding with Mike Cannon-Brookes
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Mike Cannon-Brookes is the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Atlassian, the $50BN software giant behind products like Jira, Confluence, and Trello. Since founding the company in 2002, he has scaled it to over 300,000 customers globally, generating more than $5BN in annual revenue. Atlassian now employs over 10,000 people across 13 countries and is one of the most successful bootstrapped-to-IPO stories in tech history. Mike is also a leading climate investor and co-owner of several major sports teams.
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00:00 Why Unreasonable Men Win in Startups
07:22 How to Make Co-CEOs Work
13:22 Are We in an AI Bubble? Is Everything Overvalued?
26:46 The Future of Software Development: More or Less Devs
32:53 Do Margins Matter in a World of AI
34:02 The Future of Vibe Coding…
36:35 Does Defensibility Exist in a World of AI
42:09 Is Per Seat Pricing Dead in a World of AI
49:01 The Founder Journey and Leadership
54:28 Quick Fire Round: Parenting Advice, Relationship to Money