The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)

2025-03-02 · 94 min · 104 entities

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://pocketcasts.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://linkedin.com/in/ben-davis-sf
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbh_Mela
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co-founder of WordPress
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co-founder of WordPress
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CEO of Automattic
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co-founder of WordPress
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co-founder of WordPress
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://penname.co/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://a16z.com/author/marc-andreessen
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://stripe.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://automattic.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://shopify.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://spacex.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://llama.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://paulgraham.com/foundermode.html
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://calm.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wix.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://akismet.com/wordpress
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://dayoneapp.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://daylightcomputer.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://ma.tt/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://cnet.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://jetpack.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://woocommerce.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://beeper.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://simplenote.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://creativecommons.org/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://audrey.co/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://august.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://keysjazzbistro.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://joomla.org/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://new.drupal.org/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://tumblr.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://gravatar.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://illuminate.org/projects/thebaylights
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://illuminate.org/the-bay-lights-360
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://houstonisd.org/hspva
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://ma.tt/2024/09/ecosystem-thinking
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/fire-engines-shortage-private-equity.html
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://asia.wordcamp.org/2025
→ references Justin Baldoni Defamation Lawsuit Publicist Blake Lively website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://deadline.com/2024/12/justin-baldoni-defamation-lawsuit-publicist-blake-lively-1236241784
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://searchenginejournal.com/how-wordpress-hot-nacho-scandal-shapes-wp-engine-dispute/539069
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wordpress.org/gutenberg
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://classicpress.net/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://cow.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://alibaba.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wordpressenginetracker.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://books.worksinprogress.co/book/maintenance-of-everything/addenda/page/introduction

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://penname.co/
mentioned stripe.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://stripe.com/
mentioned shopify.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://shopify.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://spacex.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://llama.com/
mentioned Foundermode website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://paulgraham.com/foundermode.html
mentioned calm.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://calm.com/
mentioned dayoneapp.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://dayoneapp.com/
mentioned daylightcomputer.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://daylightcomputer.com/
mentioned ma.tt website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://ma.tt/
mentioned cnet.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://cnet.com/
mentioned jetpack.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://jetpack.com/
mentioned woocommerce.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://woocommerce.com/
mentioned beeper.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://beeper.com/
mentioned simplenote.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://simplenote.com/
mentioned creativecommons.org website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://creativecommons.org/
mentioned audrey.co website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://audrey.co/
mentioned august.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://august.com/
mentioned keysjazzbistro.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://keysjazzbistro.com/
mentioned joomla.org website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://joomla.org/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://new.drupal.org/
mentioned tumblr.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://tumblr.com/
mentioned gravatar.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://gravatar.com/
mentioned Thebaylights website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://illuminate.org/projects/thebaylights
mentioned The Bay Lights 360 website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://illuminate.org/the-bay-lights-360
mentioned Hspva website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://houstonisd.org/hspva
mentioned asia.wordcamp.org website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://asia.wordcamp.org/2025
mentioned Justin Baldoni Defamation Lawsuit Publicist Blake Lively website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://deadline.com/2024/12/justin-baldoni-defamation-lawsuit-publicist-blake-lively-1236241784
mentioned How Wordpress Hot Nacho Scandal Shapes Wp Engine Dispute website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://searchenginejournal.com/how-wordpress-hot-nacho-scandal-shapes-wp-engine-dispute/539069
mentioned Gutenberg website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wordpress.org/gutenberg
mentioned classicpress.net website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://classicpress.net/
mentioned cow.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://cow.com/
mentioned alibaba.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://alibaba.com/
mentioned wordpressenginetracker.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wordpressenginetracker.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://penname.co/
references stripe.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://stripe.com/
references shopify.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://shopify.com/
references spacex.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://spacex.com/
references llama.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://llama.com/
references Foundermode website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://paulgraham.com/foundermode.html
references calm.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://calm.com/
references dayoneapp.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://dayoneapp.com/
references daylightcomputer.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://daylightcomputer.com/
references ma.tt website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://ma.tt/
references cnet.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://cnet.com/
references jetpack.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://jetpack.com/
references woocommerce.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://woocommerce.com/
references beeper.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://beeper.com/
references simplenote.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://simplenote.com/
references creativecommons.org website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://creativecommons.org/
references audrey.co website

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evidence rules-v4
Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://audrey.co/
references august.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://august.com/
references keysjazzbistro.com website

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evidence rules-v4
Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://keysjazzbistro.com/
references joomla.org website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://joomla.org/
references new.drupal.org website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://new.drupal.org/
references tumblr.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://tumblr.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://gravatar.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://illuminate.org/projects/thebaylights
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://illuminate.org/the-bay-lights-360
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://houstonisd.org/hspva
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://asia.wordcamp.org/2025
references Justin Baldoni Defamation Lawsuit Publicist Blake Lively website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://deadline.com/2024/12/justin-baldoni-defamation-lawsuit-publicist-blake-lively-1236241784
references How Wordpress Hot Nacho Scandal Shapes Wp Engine Dispute website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://searchenginejournal.com/how-wordpress-hot-nacho-scandal-shapes-wp-engine-dispute/539069
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wordpress.org/gutenberg
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://classicpress.net/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://cow.com/
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://alibaba.com/
references wordpressenginetracker.com website

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wordpressenginetracker.com/

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://linkedin.com/in/ben-davis-sf
mentioned Kumbh Mela person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbh_Mela
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://linkedin.com/in/ben-davis-sf
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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbh_Mela
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Feed author/publisher: Lenny Rachitsky
mentioned Marc Andreessen person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://a16z.com/author/marc-andreessen
mentioned Ecosystem Thinking person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://ma.tt/2024/09/ecosystem-thinking
mentioned Fire Engines Shortage Private Equity person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/fire-engines-shortage-private-equity.html
mentioned Maintenance Of Everything person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://books.worksinprogress.co/book/maintenance-of-everything/addenda/page/introduction
references Marc Andreessen person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://a16z.com/author/marc-andreessen
references Ecosystem Thinking person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://ma.tt/2024/09/ecosystem-thinking
references Fire Engines Shortage Private Equity person

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/fire-engines-shortage-private-equity.html
references Maintenance Of Everything person

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evidence rules-v4
Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://books.worksinprogress.co/book/maintenance-of-everything/addenda/page/introduction

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co-founder of WordPress
founded WordPress company

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co-founder of WordPress
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Feed category: Technology
works at Automattic company

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CEO of Automattic
works at Automattic company

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CEO of Automattic
works at WordPress company

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co-founder of WordPress
works at WordPress company

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co-founder of WordPress
mentioned Automattic company

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://automattic.com/
mentioned Wix company

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wix.com/
mentioned WordPress company

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://akismet.com/wordpress
discusses Technology company

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Feed category: Technology
references Automattic company

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://automattic.com/
references Wix company

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://wix.com/
references WordPress company

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://akismet.com/wordpress

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mentioned Business concept

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Feed category: Business
mentioned Entrepreneurship concept

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Feed category: Entrepreneurship
mentioned open source concept

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the future of open source
discusses Business concept

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Feed category: Business
discusses Entrepreneurship concept

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Feed category: Entrepreneurship
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CEO

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://pocketcasts.com/
references pocketcasts.com podcast

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Link in episode "The creator of WordPress opens up about becoming an internet villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)": https://pocketcasts.com/

Episode description as stored

Matt Mullenweg is the co-founder of WordPress, the open source platform powering a staggering 43% of the internet. He also serves as CEO of Automattic—the parent company of brands like WordPress.com, WooCommerce, and Tumblr—which is worth over $7 billion, with over 1,700 employees across 90 countries. In this episode, he discusses some of the most controversial topics surrounding WordPress, Automattic, and the broader open source community. — What you’ll learn: • Matt’s response to public criticism • Why products like Meta’s Llama are “fake open source” • How his team is turning around Tumblr after acquiring it for just $3 million (after Yahoo bought it for $1.1 billion) • Why he mortgaged his home to fund San Francisco’s iconic Bay Lights project • Matt’s philosophy: “Don’t just build a product; build a movement” • Why open source matters: “If the Founding Fathers were around today, they’d be open source advocates” — Brought to you by: • WorkOS —Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs • Vanta —Automate compliance. Simplify security. • Loom —The easiest screen recorder you’ll ever use — Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-creator-of-wordpress-opens-up-matt-mullenweg — Where to find Matt Mullenweg: • X: https://x.com/photomatt • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattm/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/photomatt/ • Website: https://ma.tt/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Introduction to Matt Mullenweg (05:10) Matt’s career journey (11:15) Bay Lights project and philanthropy (17:28) How Matt got involved with open source (23:25) Why products like Meta’s Llama are “fake open source” (27:14) The future of open source and how to get involved (35:25) Building a successful online community (39:12) The WP Engine controversy (50:24) Facing criticism and controversy (55:29) Addressing community concerns (01:08:29) Forking Advanced Custom Fields (01:11:15) The role of social media and public perception (01:16:43) Acquiring and reviving Tumblr (01:24:25) Automattic’s acquisition strategy (01:28:51) Final thoughts and future plans — Referenced: • WordPress: https://wordpress.com/ • Automattic: https://automattic.com/ • CNET: https://www.cnet.com/ • Akismet: https://akismet.com/wordpress/ • Jetpack: https://jetpack.com/ • Toni Schneider on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonischneider/ • WooCommerce: https://woocommerce.com/ • Beeper: https://www.beeper.com/ • Day One: https://dayoneapp.com/ • Simplenote: https://simplenote.com/ • Pocket Casts: https://pocketcasts.com/ • Creative Commons: https://creativecommons.org/ • Audrey Capital: https://audrey.co/ • Stripe: https://stripe.com/ • SpaceX: https://www.spacex.com/ • Calm: https://www.calm.com/ • August: https://august.com/ • Daylight Computer: https://daylightcomputer.com/ • Keys Jazz Bistro: https://keysjazzbistro.com/ • Joomla: https://www.joomla.org/ • Drupal: https://new.drupal.org/ • Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ • Wix: https://www.wix.com/ • Squarespace: https://www.squarespace.com/ • Tumblr: https://www.tumblr.com/ • Gravatar: https://gravatar.com/ • The Bay Lights: https://illuminate.org/projects/thebaylights/ • The Bay Lights 360: https://illuminate.org/the-bay-lights-360/ • Ben Davis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-davis-sf/ • Kinder High School for the Performing and Visual Arts: https://www.houstonisd.org/hspva • Jack Dorsey: We’re Losing our Free Will to Algorithms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_8NganZSFI • Marc Andreessen: https://a16z.com/author/marc-andreessen/ • Bill Gurley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billgurley/ • An inside look at X’s Community Notes | Keith Coleman (VP of Product) and Jay Baxter (ML Lead): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-x-built-the-best-fact-checking-system-on-the-internet • Llama: ht