RZA on Wu-Tang’s Legacy, Tarantino, and the Mindset Behind It All

<section class="text-token-text-primary w-full focus:outline-none [--shadow-height:45px] has-data-writing-block:pointer-events-none has-data-writing-block:-mt-(--shadow-height) has-data-writing-block:pt-(--shadow-height) [&amp;:has([data-writing-block])&gt;*]:pointer-events-auto [content-visibility:auto] supports-[content-visibility:auto]:[contain-intrinsic-size:auto_100lvh] R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id="request-e51bbe49-d443-45ee-a67f-bb4b2f9186cc-0" data-testid="conversation-turn-278" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn="assistant"> <div class="text-base my-auto mx-auto pb-10 [--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-xs,calc(var(--spacing)*4))] @w-sm/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-sm,calc(var(--spacing)*6))] @w-lg/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-lg,calc(var(--spacing)*16))] px-(--thread-content-margin)"> <div class="[--thread-content-max-width:40rem] @w-lg/main:[--thread-content-max-width:48rem] mx-auto max-w-(--thread-content-max-width) flex-1 group/turn-messages focus-visible:outline-hidden relative flex w-full min-w-0 flex-col agent-turn"> <div class="flex max-w-full flex-col gap-4 grow"> <div class="min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal outline-none keyboard-focused:focus-ring [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-1" dir="auto" tabindex="0" data-message-author-role="assistant" data-message-id="452ec72a-9bc2-484e-99cf-0fdba23b5f73" data-message-model-slug="gpt-5-5-thinking" data-turn-start-message="true"> <div class="flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden"> <div class="markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full wrap-break-word light markdown-new-styling"> <p data-start="96" data-end="606">In this powerful episode of Backstage Pass with Gentry Thomas, Gentry sits down with RZA, the legendary rapper, producer, filmmaker, and founding member of the Wu-Tang Clan. RZA joins the show to talk about his new film, <em>One Spoon of Chocolate</em>, a stylish action thriller starring Shameik Moore, Paris Jackson, RJ Cyler, Blair Underwood, and more. The film follows a veteran and ex-convict looking for a fresh start in a small town, only to uncover something much darker beneath the surface.</p> <p data-start="608" data-end="716">Fans can watch the trailer, find screenings, and buy tickets here:<br data-start="678" data-end="681"><a href="https://onespoonofchocolate.film/">One Spoon of Chocolate</a></p> <p data-start="718" data-end="1066">RZA and Gentry dive into what it takes to create a film from the ground up, with RZA breaking down the writing, directing, and production process behind One Spoon of Chocolate. He also opens up about whether making an album or making a movie is harder, and how hip-hop, cinema, martial arts, and storytelling all connect in his creative universe.</p> <p data-start="1068" data-end="1434">The conversation also gets personal as RZA reflects on the loss of his Wu-Tang brother Ol&rsquo; Dirty Bastard, the legacy of the group, and what Wu-Tang means to hip-hop culture today. He shares stories about working with Paris Jackson, discussing her connection to Michael Jackson, and the unique timing of their projects being released around the same time.</p> <p data-start="1436" data-end="1632">RZA also talks about his relationship with filmmaker Quentin Tarantino, his evolution from music legend to director, and the lessons he&rsquo;s learned building worlds through both sound and cinema.</p> <p data-start="1634" data-end="1810">From Wu-Tang history to Hollywood storytelling, this episode is packed with wisdom, creativity, and raw authenticity from one of the most influential artists of his generation.</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </section>