737 - Studio-Adjacent

John welcomes back Phil Hay (Destroyer, The Invitation) to ask, how do you get a movie made with independent financing? They look at how indie movies get made, where you get the money, deciding when to go indie, and whether streamers complicate the picture. We also follow up on testing movies with focus groups and answer listener questions on how to navigate the editing room, daily routines, and what to do when your story has too many themes. In our bonus segment for premium members, we look back on what Phil learned about D&D from his documentary The Dungeon Masters. Links: Phil Hay Scriptnotes  Episode 244 ,  Episode 377 , and  Episode 505 The Dungeon Masters The Answering Machine Meltdown  from Swingers John's daily to-do template Pamela Ribon's  One Act  documentary Petey USA's The Yips KOXY College Radio Get your copy of the Scriptnotes book! Get a Scriptnotes T-shirt! Check out the Inneresting Newsletter Become a Scriptnotes Premium member , or  gift a subscription Subscribe to Scriptnotes on  YouTube Follow Scriptnotes on  Instagram  and  TikTok John August on  Bluesky  and  Instagram Outro  by Craig Good ( send us yours! ) Scriptnotes is produced by  Drew Marquardt  and edited by  Matthew Chilelli . Email us at ask@johnaugust.com You can download the episode  here .