Govern, not Pastor?
2026-10-02 · 84 min · 8 entities
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Show Transcript After hearing pastors Josh Howerton and Josh McPherson claim on a podcast that their job is to “govern, not pastor” — and that accountability makes them “nervous” — podcaster Alisa Childers, took them to task. Childers claimed the men had expressed a “defining feature of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)” — that the […]