Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217

2026-10-05 · 50 min · episode 217 · 18 entities

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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://amazon.com/Bravery-Effect-Teaching-Conquering-Achieving/dp/B0F2BBPR35
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://jimkwik.com/dragon
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://drjcdoornick.substack.com/
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://jimkwik.com/dragon
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://blueblindsbakery.com/
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://jillschulman.com/
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://jimkwik.com/dragon
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://blueblindsbakery.com/
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://jillschulman.com/

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mentioned Bravery Effect Teaching Conquering Achieving book

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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://amazon.com/Bravery-Effect-Teaching-Conquering-Achieving/dp/B0F2BBPR35
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Link in episode "Jill Schulman - A Marine Veteran Explains How to Conquer Fear - E217": https://amazon.com/Bravery-Effect-Teaching-Conquering-Achieving/dp/B0F2BBPR35

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Jill Schulman was one of the first women to lead in Marine Corps combat engineering. She then turned a career in pharma and corporate leadership development into a master's in positive psychology at Penn, and she has trained more than 30,000 leaders around one idea: action creates confidence. Her book, The Bravery Effect, delivers that science as a parable. In this conversation, she and I make sense of why waiting until you feel ready is a trap, what a terrifying obstacle course taught her about fear, and why bravery is a skill anyone can build. You will also hear the one small step you can put on your calendar for tomorrow. Stay with me. Connect With Jill Schulman: Website: https://www.jillschulman.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jillschulman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillaschulman Book: The Bravery Effect (Greenleaf Book Group, 2025): https://www.amazon.com/Bravery-Effect-Teaching-Conquering-Achieving/dp/B0F2BBPR35 Free audiobook offer mentioned in the episode: link not found, to be supplied by Jill's team Follow Dr. JC Doornick and the Makes Sense Academy: ► Makes Sense Substack - https://drjcdoornick.substack.com ► Instagram: /drjcdoornick ► Substack: /drjcdoornick ► Facebook: /makessensepodcast ► YouTube: /drjcdoornick MAKES SENSE PODCAST Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. This podcast explores topics that expand human consciousness and enhance performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is subjective and an acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW & SHARE our new podcast. FOLLOW Podcast: You will find a "Follow" button in the top right. This will enable the podcast software to alert you when a new episode launches each week. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/makes-sense-with-dr-jc-doornick/id1730954168 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1WHfKWDDReMtrGFz4kkZs9?si=003780ca147c4aec Podcast Affiliates Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where I get all these topics, which I've been covering for almost 15 years. I have learned to read nearly four times faster and retain information 10 times better with Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon OUR SPONSORS Operly - Take Back Control of Your Work Day and Get Rid of All Your AI Apps - Welcome to the new world of Time Freedom and Unlimited Scaling and Success with Operly - https://go.getoperly.ai/video?ref=jean-claude-claude-d-2a95 Blue Blinds Bakery - Handcrafted with all-natural ingredients - https://www.blueblindsbakery.com Timestamps 0:00 - 1:23: Cold Open and Welcome 1:23 - 3:25: What Life Feels Like Now: A Healthy Obsession 3:25 - 6:01: Pruning Good Work to Make Room for Great 6:01 - 8:34: Day One in the Marine Corps: Pink Polka Dots and "You Will Never Make It" 8:34 - 11:50: Bravery in Little Moments and Holding Yourself to the Marine Standard 11:50 - 15:07: Combat Engineering and Learning to Get Punched in the Face 15:07 - 19:36: From Pharma to Penn: Positive Psychology and the Problem of Fear 19:36 - 23:28: Bravery Defined and Why Action Builds Confidence 23:28 - 27:14: The Slide for Life and Fear as a Signpost 27:14 - 29:17: Why Jill Grabbed the Rope: Ask Your Future Self 29:17 - 33:03: Surround Yourself With People Who Call Forth Your Best 33:03 - 37:35: Bravery Myths: Built Not Born, and Fear Is a Good Sign 37:35 - 41:01: Your First Small Brave Step: Plan It and Put It on the Calendar 41:01 - 42:56: Why The Bravery Effect Is a Parable 42:56 - 46:52: Difficult Conversations, Imposter Syndrome, and Studying Other People's Journeys 46:52 - 47:39: The One Sentence to Remember 47:39 - 49:24: Where to Find Jill and Her Free Book Offer 49: