The Tech Behind Signalgate + Dwarkesh Patel's "Scaling Era" + Is A.I. Making Our Listeners Dumb?

This week, we dig into the group chat that’s rocking the Trump administration and talk about why turning to Signal to plan military operations probably isn’t a great idea. Then, we’re joined by the podcaster Dwarkesh Patel to discuss his new book “The Scaling Era,” and whether he’s still optimistic about the broad benefits of A.I. And finally, a couple weeks ago we asked whether A.I. was making you dumber. Now we hear your takes.   Guest: Dwarkesh Patel , tech podcaster and author of “The Scaling Era: An Oral History of A.I., 2019-2025”   Additional Reading: The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans Signal Chat Leak Angers U.S. Military Pilots Is A.I. Making Us Dumb?   We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com . Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok . Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.