How Do You Know When Work Becomes Trauma? Toxic Work Culture with Natalie Holder
2026-10-02 · 50 min · episode 116 · 14 entities
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What happens when the workplace you once worked so hard to succeed in becomes the place you no longer recognize yourself?
In this episode of Notes From the Edge , Lisa Lacy sits down with employment attorney, workplace strategist, author, and former corporate people and culture executive Natalie Holder for a powerful conversation about workplace trauma, exclusion, toxic work culture, self-advocacy, and career reinvention.
Natalie explains why workplace trauma does not always look dramatic. Sometimes it is being left out of the room, overlooked for opportunities, quietly bullied, or repeatedly questioning whether what you are experiencing is “bad enough” to speak up about.
They explore why high performers may be among the last people to leave unhealthy environments, why having language for what is happening matters, and how unresolved workplace experiences can follow us into the next job if we never stop to understand them.
Natalie also challenges the idea that the answer is always to quit immediately. Sometimes the most powerful move is understanding what happened, getting support, planning your exit intentionally, and asking better questions about what you actually want next.
In this episode:
• How exclusion and workplace trauma can hide in plain sight
• Why high performers may stay in unhealthy workplaces longer
• Finding the language to advocate for yourself
• Knowing when it is time to stay, leave, or strategically pivot
• Building a career that supports who you are becoming
Connect with Natalie Holder:
https://natalieholderspeaks.com
Connect with Lisa Lacy:
https://www.lisalacy.com
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