263: Charlie McMahan - How To Build A Tribe From 50 To 5,000

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk Episode #263: Charlie McMahan - How To Build A Tribe From 50 To 5,000 Charlie McMahan has been the Lead Pastor of SouthBrook Church since 1992. He is driven by a deep concern for those who may feel like they don't belong in a church and a sincere hope that anyone who struggles with faith can end up with a life that looks like the life of Jesus.  He is focused on developing future leaders and spends many hours a week mentoring others (including me!). Charlie has led SouthBrook from a small church that originally met in an elementary school to now hosting more than 5,000 members per weekend.  He has a deep understanding for how to build a loyal tribe of people. The Learning Leader Show "The Process: Teaser, Tension, Truth, Take Home, Together." Show Notes: Sustaining excellence: Integrated people - They aren't chasing a bunch of different things Consolidated on the self mission Focused - Not distracted Family Charlie's dad was gone 25 days a month (he later found out he was in the CIA) The reason he turns down big opportunities is because he doesn't want to travel and wants to be with his family Levels of communication with kids Don't spend money on stuff, spend money on experiences -- Their place is Hilton Head Process for Charlie's performances (his speeches/sermons) The word entertainment means "To hold people's attention" The Process: Teaser - Something that grabs you Tension - The inductive part of speaking that you have to do today. So the listeners know "this is important." If you don't do this, people will leave Truth Take Home - The practical "do" Together - "Isn't this the kind of person we want to be?" Most preachers were trained to be deductive... You can't do that now. You need to help them draw their own conclusions. Finding a way to weave stories and science together The Medici Effect - The renaissance happened because seemingly disconnected entities were connected . "I'm always figuring out how disconnected entities connect" "The upside of stress" "Emotions are like waves. You can't choose which ones come, but you can choose which to ride." Choose to embrace stress, it can have a positive impact on you Create a habit of how you look at life: How long did it take you to put this message together? "30 hours and a lifetime." The intersection of the reality of the struggles with Charlie's kids and applying it to the lives of the people you serve What is it like to be the children of someone as successful as Charlie? "Our kids had so much pressure on them.  We didn't appreciate how much it was." "The Famous Father Syndrome" - Kids choose to differentiate from their parents because they can't win that game Advice give to parents: "When you walk in the room, the temperature will go up for them.  Kids need stress to grow." "The stress free life is the dying life" "When we walked in the room, the temperature went way up for my kids. The same heat that drove me, burned them." --> "Most parenting things you learn 5 minutes too late" PLAY - Personality type, Learning style, Ability level, Yes factor -- "You don't have to cave under the pressure. It doesn't have to destroy you" Growing a church from 50 people to 5,000 per weekend.  How? Has to be a commitment to excellence that is YOU -- Has to be in ALL areas of your life. "Excellence is a habit." "Excellence is expressing my worth... Ennobling others because I care. Perfectionism is trying to earn my worth by being perfect... And that is dangerous."  Be careful to not think, "I have to be perfect or I"m not worth anything." "Maturity is way underrated" "Excellence comes out of peace. In excellence the process is as much of importance as the product." "I don't have grammatical errors on the manuscript that nobody else ever sees." "Excellence is the right people doing the right things for the right reasons." "The right motivations are not so compulsive." "The constant burden of leadership is the constant interception of entropy.